A Deep Dive on the Bond Market with Strategas

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05/12/2022

On this week’s episode of the Behind the Markets podcast, Thomas Tzitzouris, Managing Director and Fixed Income Strategist at Strategas (a Baird Company), joined regular host Jeremy Schwartz, Global CIO at WisdomTree. They discussed:

  • Too loose: Just six-eight weeks ago, Strategas’s index of monetary conditions showed monetary policy was the loosest on record and around 400 bps below a neutral stance. Around 40% of that 400-bp gap had been reduced prior to last week’s meeting.
  • The Balance sheet will be impactful: Tzitzouris’s team models that $500 billion of balance sheet reduction translates to a 25-bp hike. The Fed has plans to reduce its balance sheet by $3 trillion over the next two to two-and-a-half years or $2 trillion over the next 18 months, which translates to 100 bps of hikes over the next 18 months and 150 bps over 30 months. 
  • Main Street vs. Wall Street: Strategas believes interest rate hikes will impact Main Street more than Wall Street, while the balance sheet reduction will impact Wall Street and corporations. Consumers (two-thirds of the economy) are most sensitive to short-term borrowing costs. When the Fed flattens the curve, large corporations like Apple might see their borrowing costs decline as they become incentivized to borrow to repurchase shares. When the curve steepens, borrowing costs increase and there is less motivation for this activity.
  • Yield curve inversion is not just a leading indicator of a recession, but also causes recessions, in Strategas’s view. This discussion was one of the most interesting segments of the podcast and I encourage listeners to check it out for more details.  
  • Tzitzouris sees the Fed Funds Rate rising toward 3.25% during this hiking cycle and sees the 10-Year Treasury yield not far from that target. Perhaps the bond market carnage at the 10-year duration will now be slowing down. 
  • More pain in TIPS bonds to come: 10-year real yields had been negative for some time. Those TIPS bonds started getting back into positive territory recently but are still priced well below long-term averages. Tzitzouris believes a 1% real yield on the 10-year bond would be more appropriate on average—and even that 1% rate is below the long-term average yield of these bonds since they were first issued in 1997. Rising real rates would continue to pressure these TIPS bond prices lower, as they have in 2022 thus far. 

Given 2022 is the year of macro, rates and inflation as critical variables impacting all markets, this conversation with Strategas is well-timed and worth a listen. You can listen to the full discussion below.

 

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Jeremy Schwartz has served as our Global Chief Investment Officer since November 2021 and leads WisdomTree’s investment strategy team in the construction of WisdomTree’s equity indexes, quantitative active strategies and multi-asset model portfolios. Mr. Schwartz joined WisdomTree in May 2005 as a Senior Analyst, adding to his responsibilities in February 2007 as Deputy Director of Research and thereafter, from October 2008 to October 2018, as Director of Research and from November 2018 to November 2021 as Global Head of Research. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was head research assistant for Professor Jeremy Siegel and helped with the research and writing of Stocks for the Long Run and The Future for Investors. Mr. Schwartz also is co-author of the Financial Analysts Journal paper, What Happened to the Original Stocks in the S&P 500? He received his B.S. in Economics from The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and hosts the Wharton Business Radio program Behind the Markets on SiriusXM 132. Mr. Schwartz is also a member of the CFA Society of Philadelphia.